I caught bits and pieces of the GOP’s shitshow of a debate in South Carolina last night (state motto: “Our proudest moment was in 1861!”). But I’ll leave it to a much better writer than I to sum up just how bad this was, and how we’ve descended to this point in our politics. Charlie Pierce, take it away!…
Clinton had her moment with a one-liner too when making it clear she cedes no ground to Sanders. She stated ‘I’m a progressive. But I’m a progressive who likes to get things done,’ And she knows we need to find a credible way to fund the programs we propose. Sanders just has no clue about the paycheck for what he is planning.
Now, I’ve got to admit… the memo is kind of correct. It’s too late for Biden to jump in. Without a significant stumble by Clinton, the debate drives home how wrong it would be for Biden to step on her now. Bernie Sanders can’t be President. He’s a socialist! He gave a wonderful paean to socialism last night. And who were those other guys on the stage? I mean, really, who the hell were they? Other than Martin O’Malley. Gee, he looked handsome and tall, and he was really trying to register an impression. And you’ve got to give him credit for at least being a Democrat, which is not a distinction any of the other men on the stage seem to have. You’d think that would be a bare minimum for the Democratic nomination. We’ll see if O’Malley gets any traction in the polls, now. It’s unlikely. The acceptance of Hillary is jelling. So sayeth the memo.
Meade speculates: “Bernie and Hillary are too old to stand for 3 hours.”
Me: “We can’t sit through 3 hours.”
So then if, at the last minute, he decides to drop in — and CNN has given him until the last minute to decide — it will be an opportunity for media folk to whip out their favorite adverb: unexpectedly!
It’s all just so unfair to Hillary. Don’t prepare to fend off Biden? And yet, he may surprise us. If it seems advantageous when the time comes. He’s got 22 days to tease us, excite us (over what is essentially an utterly boring prospect — Joe Biden running for President again).
The seeds of Walker’s withdrawal had been planted five nights earlier in Simi Valley, when Walker spoke for fewer minutes than any other candidate on the debate stage. Instead of a breakout performance, the closet thing he had to a signature moment came as Carly Fiorina finished her impassioned answer on Planned Parenthood. Walker lifted his finger, as if to interject. He wasn’t called upon. He would speak only once in the next 30 minutes.
Walker lowest of poll on Wednesday debate @ 1%
Walker turned to Donald Trump – the 2016 candidate whose political fortunes have risen as Walker’s have cratered – and delivered his carefully prepared zing payload. “We don’t need an apprentice in the White House,” Walker said, “we have one right now.”
It was a reference to Donald Trump’s former show, “The Apprentice,” but Walker seemed to be under the impression that the “apprentice” referenced in the show’s title was Trump. That’s not how the show worked; Donald Trump was not “The Apprentice.” The joke made no sense. A few people in the audience laughed, probably because they’re idiots who laugh at anything. Jeb Bush, standing between Walker and Trump, paused for a moment to work out what Walker was getting at, then offered a sympathetic nod and closed-lip “good job, good effort” smile. The canned line had flopped, and Trump remained wholly un-zung.
“Nobody up there thought they had to confront him on anything, which is indicative of the fact that nobody feels especially threatened by him.“
“LOSERS Scott Walker. The Wisconsin governor has been falling precipitously in the polls, in part because his performance at the first debate was widely seen as lacking fire and charisma. Walker came out of the gate impressively on Wednesday night with a jab at Trump — “We don’t need an apprentice in the White House”…
“Scott Walker had himself to blame for his lack of Q&A time. Walker’s barely noticeable poll rankings pretty much meant no one cared about his big bold plans, like stripping Americans of health care, going to war with China, Russia, Syria and Iran, and removing a century’s worth of labor rights men and women literally…
“During the debate Walker did present himself with more energy and willingness to engage and not wait to be called on to lend his perspective to the issues at hand. But he seemed unable to step into issues with any depth or sureness over what he was talking about. There was once again an over reliance on using the time-tested lines from the campaign stops to be offered up as responses.”
Simi Valley, Calif. — Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker needed a breakout performance in Wednesday’s GOP presidential debate, but he had a problem:
In the three-hour forum at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library, he was asked just three questions.
“Short of tackling someone, I don’t know what more I could have done,” Walker told reporters after the debate. “I aggressively interrupted (CNN moderator) Jake Tapper a bunch of times along the way and short of an absolute brawl, I don’t know what more one could do.”
Scott Walker: He had a good first 10 minutes with his “apprentice” line. But he faded after that. It was like the football team that immediately delivered on the trick play it had been practicing, but then showed little else for the rest of the game.
Bader’s advice for Walker in tonight’s debate. Good luck with that –
“And on an episode of “Celebrity Apprentice” in 2013, Trump listened to a story about contestant Brande Roderick, an actress and former Playmate, and picked up on one line. “Excuse me, you dropped to your knees?” he asked Roderick. “Must be a pretty picture, you dropping to your knees.”
“The case for Walker is that he’s principled, if uncharismatic. The case against him is that he’s doctrinaire and unpersonable. Megyn Kelly’s question, “Are you too extreme?” gave Walker the opportunity to reveal a more nuanced, thoughtful, compassionate side. Such a self-revelation might have inspired party leaders to think, “Here’s our best back-up plan if…
But the overall impression he gave in his first outing was of a lightweight, someone not comfortable enough with his own knowledge and experience base to really engage with the issues, much less his immediate opponents.
In terms of substance, Walker offered TV viewers a glimpse of his foreign policy hawkishness and his religious faith.
In terms of style, he delivered a safe, quiet performance that kept him above the fray but also on the sidelines for long stretches.